when does “never again” mean never again?

: "Arguments have no genders."

pixee-skellington:

allarecreatedequal:

allarecreatedequal:

thepellucidpanda:

allarecreatedequal:

Males can debate abortion too.

But no one can tell another what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

I agree. And that’s such a fundamental problem with abortion—the preborn child has no choice in what is being…

Why is sentience value-giving? 

You’re right that women who get pregnant have often consented (to use your term) to sex and not to pregnancy. However, we don’t consent to consequences, but we do have to take responsibility for them once they occur. For instance, I might toss a baseball to my brother and hit him in the face. I didn’t consent to hit him in the face—that was clearly an accident. I do, however, have to shoulder the responsibility for hurting him. 

You seriously just compared pregnancy to accidentally hitting someone in the face with a ball? While explicitly calling parenting a consequence with completely negative connotations. You should stop. Just completely stop because you sound gross.

Bodily autonomy. BODILY AUTONOMY. That’s it. “Value” plays no factor especially since value is 100% subjective. Sentience was only relevant to the difference between human and personhood.

Oh, and brush up on what consent is. You clearly don’t know what that word means.

Obviously I don’t think that parenting is a negative thing. I just wanted to compare sex and pregnancy with another situation where the consequences aren’t always what we have agreed to.

My bodily autonomy does not give me the right to kill born humans. What makes preborn humans less valuable, making it okay to kill them? 

(via pixeeisnotyourpersonaljesus)

The Pellucid Panda: "Arguments have no genders."

allarecreatedequal:

thepellucidpanda:

allarecreatedequal:

Males can debate abortion too.

But no one can tell another what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

I agree. And that’s such a fundamental problem with abortion—the preborn child has no choice in what is being…

I’m going to paste what I just typed about consent here: You’re right that women who get pregnant have often consented (to use your term) to sex and not to pregnancy. However, we don’t consent to consequences, but we do have to take responsibility for them once they occur. For instance, I Might toss a baseball to my brother and hit him in the face. I didn’t consent to hit him in the face—that was clearly an accident. I do, however, have to shoulder the responsibility for hurting him.

Science has shown us that the zygote, embryo, or fetus is a distinct, living, and whole human being. To deny him or her rights is to deny human equality.

: "Arguments have no genders."

allarecreatedequal:

thepellucidpanda:

allarecreatedequal:

Males can debate abortion too.

But no one can tell another what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

I agree. And that’s such a fundamental problem with abortion—the preborn child has no choice in what is being…

Why is sentience value-giving? 

You’re right that women who get pregnant have often consented (to use your term) to sex and not to pregnancy. However, we don’t consent to consequences, but we do have to take responsibility for them once they occur. For instance, I might toss a baseball to my brother and hit him in the face. I didn’t consent to hit him in the face—that was clearly an accident. I do, however, have to shoulder the responsibility for hurting him. 

(via pixeeisnotyourpersonaljesus)

"Arguments have no genders."

thepellucidpanda:

allarecreatedequal:

Males can debate abortion too.

But no one can tell another what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

I agree. And that’s such a fundamental problem with abortion—the preborn child has no choice in what is being done to him or her. He or she is not part of the mother’s body, but a separate, unique, living, and whole human being. 

"Arguments have no genders."

Males can debate abortion too.

"[These photos] are very depressing. I think I’ll remember this forever."

Student observer of Created Equal’s Indiana University outreach yesterday

(Source: you-loved-honestly, via aromanticabolitionist)

"Is our value as human beings based on what we can and cannot do?"

Gianna Jessen 

(Source: to-lose-sight, via onethirdgone-deactivated2013102)

(Source: prolifeforall, via onethirdgone-deactivated2013102)